Re: Assemblage

holy shit i didnt read all the previous emails, but only the very last one in the string. i am about 4 steps behind i think.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:12 PM, nathan van zuidam <flominate@gmail.com> wrote:
i think we should design for these psycho repulsive bodies where seats are 10 feet apart and so forth. it would be interesting to see where this takes us rather that design a 'for'ced bodily meeting.
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Animish Kudalkar <akudalkar@lmnarchitects.com> wrote:
just a tangent; another way to look at 'fat people' is addition of a psycho-repulsive mass gained by disengaged physical contact caused by communication devices. aka our personal bubbles will grow in the future. unlike our forefathers who would be afraid to touch digital screens our future generation will be timid about shaking hands.

I like the term 'fat people'. works for both industrial/intellectual labor. so then we are trying to make an intervention that burns off this psycho-repulsive mass by forcing [non/accidental] meeting between bodies. i like the idea of not inventing a building type but still have stencil of codifed pattern that becomes an infill within these existing meeting points like steve said (busstops, churches etc). a very common infill like glass. the pattern/stencil can be color. similiar to the portuguese city planning where they have colors for different building uses, in this case the infill reacts to your interests.

its about time we make use of the line of site blog to document all our responses. should be a good background as to why we came to one/three A4 solutions. Also, what if we state the 'fat people' condition and produce three seperate outcomes wall, ceiling and roof, irrespective of their gravitaional or technological orientation. ?
Animish D KudalkarLMNARCHITECTS ph.206.695.5644 801 Second Ave, Suite 501, Seattle, WA 98104.

From: nathan van zuidam [mailto:flominate@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:13 AMTo: Steve VebberCc: Animish D KudalkarSubject: Re: tba

good idea. now the submission is a punk rock flyer. i like it. im still down with 3 entries maybe more or maybe less. essentially im down with you guys are.
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Steve Vebber <vebber@gmail.com> wrote:
I love the building for the postmodern body idea. That has to be done. But I agree, could probably put to better use in something else.I think the stencil idea is an interesting critique of the idea of a meeting place, but the people judging could argue that it isn't "architectural". What if our meeting place was a bus/subway/el stop. That way, we aren't precribing some brand new building/destination for people to go to socialize and disseminate ideas. Instead if you have some upstart organization, you don't bother booking a venue to have your first meeting, you just put on your flyer, "First meeting of the Architerrorist Coalition, december 13th, 1:00pm, Fullerton El stop". It eliminates travel and parking problems, encourages people to participate that had no intention of going to any sort of meeting, advertising potential. Every stop would have potential to become a meeting venue. The smaller stops on the smaller bus/train lines would be able to handle smaller groups, and if more people show up than expected, you just load everyone onto the bus and go to the bigger transfer stop 3 stops down the line. I have to go to the store, but I'll think about this some more. Let me know what you think.Steve
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:54 PM, nathan van zuidam <flominate@gmail.com> wrote:
steve i sent these two ideas to animish and forgot to copy you...what if we give them floating walls, underneatha floating roofing. almost like an outdoor pavilion type deal. ultimate space. space that doesnt deny the fact that space has existed and will exist before and after weve established this place as a meeting point. and maybe the walls are glass too as sort of an ironical guestureor maybe within these walls re relate the space to the new age of the modern body. fat people. rather than the slimming of the postmodern body to keep up with industrialized labor we make this a fat space where the body now is slower, fatter, and sweatier (with exception of typing hands and mouse clicking). maybe this is a new project but its a provocative idea...so now that i got up to date on your guys thoughts. maybe each meeting point is 4 floating planes of %100 reflective glass (or mirrors) where it reflects exactly what is perpendicular to the eye. it almost becomes invisible, but not quite. i like the fat people one for a different project. or if we go the antitech route - we can simply make a cut out stencil MEETING PLACE - then tag some places around the city. or some sort of other codified meeting place strategy. maybe it needs to target only those who would understand the stencil.holy shit_having code names within the tba frameset is fucking brilliant. or maybe we take it a step further and keep our code names but enter each competition under a different name/affiliation. the ultimate dissemination of ideas without vain attempts at performing solely for recognition.
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Animish D Kudalkar <animishkudalkar@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Well, words co-lab or TBA have no sense. It was just the point where one of our drunken conversations ended. It still points towards a vagabond cult of architerrorists. Just like any bearded fellow has a hard time airport check posts, we expect a hard time getting into architecture conventions.

Geniuses. Yeah it will be good to project a condition before deathneed for a massive change, when the economy starts to disregard us. conventional congregation places like coffee shops, churches, parks are only available for heavy bucks or get dominated by bank robbers and criminals or corruptors . So if I get steves point correctly [and considering that technology becomes corrupt too] the pattern of meeting space shifts from enclosures to shady walls/trees/curbs around fancy bucked places. Its not a point a pattern of anti-ism that common people respond to. Signs like 'no loitering' 'no parking' becomes place meet your girlfriend or trade your PS38.5 to someone you found on craigslist [craigslist is the only thing that will die with technology]. Funny thing is that you wont find crackheads in these places because they will be living of crumbs off the richies and gangstas in the coffeeshops.

That being said I like nates idea of presenting an A4 with [madeup or existing] signs. Strangely unlike our previous works this becomes very anti-technology; an 'i-phone goes bad' situation. [ps; Iphone 3g rules ]



From: Steve Vebber [mailto:vebber@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:16 PMTo: nathan van zuidamCc: animishkudalkar@yahoo.co.inSubject: Re: tba

also, i feel out of the loop or just have a bad memory, what does the co-lab part of the name mean
i obviously know what tba is
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Steve Vebber <vebber@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah I think that is probably a good one to do.I really don't know if I buy the whole "There can be no more important building serving a community than its 'meeting point'," thing. In this day and age, do we really need a meeting "point". Why is there only one fixed location for socializing, integrating, exchanging ideas, discussing issues and, above all, relaxing in the company of others? That may work for a church, a country club or the United States congress but I would argue that disassociating these activities from one spot and allowing them, encouraging them rather, to happen anywhere/everywhere without the need for a designated "meeting point" building, would facilitate more socially responsible results, more diverse ideas but less ideological extremism. It makes me think of going to church. The priest would always say, the "church" is not the walls, the roof and the pews; instead it is the people. Well, if the building itself is unimportant, why do you have it? To exclude? To boast?So yeah, I agree with Animish. We have an output that essentially critiques the whole idea of the "meeting point", at the same time, the existence of the output itself shows the "meeting point" to be an unnecessary idea in the first place.Nate is right. We do a ton of these, even if we do some individually, then they get put under the umbrella of co-lab_TBA, and before we even have a practice we have a monograph ready to be published.Also, I think we should have co-lab_TBA names. Like rappers or the Traveling Wilburys we all pick names that we are referred to within the confines of TBA, then we have the names printed on the backs of black basketball jerseys and they become our uniforms.Over and out,mr. [n]ice-guy -- Stephen A. Vebber Graduate Student, Master's of Architecture University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign ::stephenvebber_work::::630.388.9374::

On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:08 AM, nathan van zuidam <flominate@gmail.com> wrote:
yo. i will get at my emails as much as i can. right now im at the coffee shop where i use their internet and bathroom (my toilet doesnt work) and i dont have hot water, god my place sucks. i take it we are doing the meeting point one. im down. we should almost just give them an a4 with only people on it. labeled - destination_ meeting point. as sort of some weird celebration of the particle accelerator phenomenom that is going on. supposedly the end of the world is coming... again. at the same time as wanting a signage for destination, they really want is not an architecture , but an antiarchitecture. so maybe we just give them is some inhabitable signage. lets do as many of these things as we can. then lets compile our own wierd little archigramish side job booklet as sort of the precursor to co-lab tba.
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-- Stephen A. Vebber Graduate Student, Master's of Architecture University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign ::stephenvebber_work::::630.388.9374::